This is the place to discuss general issues related to the U-boat war or the war at sea in WWII. http://www.uboat.net/forums/list.php?3 Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:47:35 +0100 Phorum 5.2.7 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81544,81544#msg-81544 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81544,81544#msg-81544 Jesse General Discussions Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:32:44 +0100 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81543,81543#msg-81543 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81543,81543#msg-81543 I am looking for one precise information regarding the number of crewmembers of some German ships sunk in the south Atlantic.They were:
PORTLAND
BABITONGA
CARL FRITZEN
ERLANGEN
GOSLAR
KARNAK
NORDERNEY
OLINDA
ATLANTIS
PYTHON
STIER
I will be deeply indebted for any assistance.
Best regards
Capt. ozires Moraes sixtant2@hotmail.com]]> Ozires moraes General Discussions Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:08:56 +0100 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81535,81535#msg-81535 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81535,81535#msg-81535 www.schifferbooks.com]]]> Jukka Juutinen General Discussions Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:04:42 +0100 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81533,81533#msg-81533 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81533,81533#msg-81533
Ive been pointed in this direction via another forum. Ive scouted this forum in the past and found it extremely useful. Had a few family members who were involved in the Merchant Navy, one of which was on the Empire Bison. Currently looking at a freinds relative, a Samuel Bowen who was on board HMS Versatile. He was an Ordnance Engineer and was lost at sea. Not through any apparent enemy action. Can anyone shed any light on this?]]> RickW General Discussions Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:31:54 +0100 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81526,81526#msg-81526 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81526,81526#msg-81526
I am new also. I tried replying to your post but it did not take. Anyway, I have first hand info I think you would like to follow up on.

In 1995 I was in the town of Jeremie, Haiti. In a V shaped cove 2 Km West, there is what I think is a German Uboat. At low tide the the conning tower is about 2 feet out of the water. A good portion of the hull is buried in the sand. I snorkeled it many times, it is in about 30 feet of water. If I remember correctly, it is no more than 300 meters from shore.

Go to google maps and you can find that cove. I've tried to see if I can see the sub, but I can't. It must have been high tide when the picture was taken. I can promise you it is there! Jeremie is located on the North side of the Southern claw. There is a road that loosely follows the coast. Look 2 Km West and you will find that V shaped cove. When you drive that road and as you come to the top of the cove, you can see the waves break around the conning tower. It is a bit of a hike to the bottom, but I don't think you'll mind.

RFO]]> RFO General Discussions Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:05:05 +0100 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81525,81525#msg-81525 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81525,81525#msg-81525 jcrt General Discussions Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:52:00 +0100 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81524,81524#msg-81524 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81524,81524#msg-81524
Discovery Channel are showing a film "Attack and Capture: The Story of U-boat 505",
on Friday the 20th.November 2009. For viewers in the United Kingdom and Ireland, this film starts at 22.00

Regards

Denis Martin FTU]]> Denis Martin FTU General Discussions Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:19:01 +0100 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81522,81522#msg-81522 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81522,81522#msg-81522 chaplain. The upturned ship's bell served as the Font. My father,
Cdr. Robin Jenks, was the Commanding Officer at the time, I believe.
I have a photograph and an oil painting of the ship, and several
others, including HM submarine H32, that he commanded during World War II.
He died on Feb. 25, 1982, just before the St. Nazaire Reunion which he
had so hoped to attend. I am not sure of the dates he was CO and
would love to learn more about that time.
I have downloaded some information from the internet,but I'd like to research a more anecdotal format. I typed a manuscript for a book he was writing about his War experiences which,sadly, I could not find after his death.
I am so proud of him and the thousands of others who went to any lengths to maintain our right to freedom, then and now...
Sincerely,
Sally E. Jenks]]> Acegirlashore General Discussions Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:23:55 +0100 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81509,81509#msg-81509 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81509,81509#msg-81509 jcrt General Discussions Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:48:58 +0100 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81503,81503#msg-81503 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81503,81503#msg-81503 jcrt General Discussions Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:49:02 +0100 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81501,81501#msg-81501 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81501,81501#msg-81501 If anyone knows the name and address of Waterhouse's descendants, please send me a message to freud@econ-ub.de
Maybe there is a possibility to send a message to the mourners.
The funeral will take place on Tuesday, Nov. 17, 2009, so this request is urgent.
Thank you.]]> André General Discussions Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:30:58 +0100 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81464,81464#msg-81464 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81464,81464#msg-81464 The emblem for U 132 is an eagle on a shield, with a swastika on the chest of the eagle instead of the talons.This emblem was "borrowed" from another Nazi organization, but I can't recall which one.If someone knows the answer I would appreciate it very much. Thanking everyone in advance.
Regards,
Mike]]> Mike Hegel General Discussions Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:48:48 +0100 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81453,81453#msg-81453 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81453,81453#msg-81453 He found a clock and a compass holder(without compass)
On the side of the clock the numer"39"is marked and on the clock an "M"can be found.

On the compass Holder on the side the sign "53H"can be found.
Can anyone tell more about this because the brother of my grandpa died many years ago]]> rogerfederer General Discussions Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:11:43 +0100 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81449,81449#msg-81449 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81449,81449#msg-81449 There is nothing in this website about an attack on this boat and no acknowledgment she was damaged. Can anyone confirm the boat was actually hit/near-missed and the nature/extent of the damage sustained?

Thanks, Brian]]> Brian V. General Discussions Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:30:31 +0100 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81447,81447#msg-81447 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81447,81447#msg-81447
The British destroyers identified, so far, in this series of photographs, are the Faulknor and H-88 Havelock. I am most interested in the Havelock and the U-Boat's identity. The only Havelock records I have found claim that the boats sunk, in the actions in which Havelock participated, did not surface and there was only one survivor from the lot. I will admit that the photos may be a mixture of different actions, although the processing and printing processes seem to be the same.

Can anyone shed light on this little mystery?]]> CMHenry General Discussions Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:00:18 +0100 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81443,81443#msg-81443 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81443,81443#msg-81443
I have in my collection a group of medals to one Ldg.Smn. William LAURIE RCNVR who, although shown on the books of HMCS Brandon, was aboard a British merchant ship which was sunk in late January 1942. Documents from Archives Canada state "Missing on War Service. He was borne for passage to Canada in a British merchant ship which sailed from a United Kingdom port about 7January1942 and has been missing since 24January1942. While this rating is listed as missing it is impossible to make an estimeate as to his chances of survival" In the event those chances were zero!

As virtually all my research focuses on Army awards, the Navy items are a mystery to me. Would your members be able to assist with information relative to: what convoy, if any, would have sailed about this time/ what British merchant ships were sunk in this January 1942 time frame in the Atlantic / possible UBoats active in the Atlantic at this time who had sunk a British merchant ship(likely a large list)

I would appreciate any information you may be able to provide.

Thank you.

Bob]]> bob clarke General Discussions Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:40:52 +0100 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81441,81441#msg-81441 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81441,81441#msg-81441 jcrt General Discussions Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:05:18 +0100 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81424,81424#msg-81424 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81424,81424#msg-81424 jcrt General Discussions Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:09:28 +0100 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81419,81419#msg-81419 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81419,81419#msg-81419
On July 7, 1942 freighter SS Oklahoman (Not to be confused with the Battleship USS Oklahoma) Sank 1nm West of Dassen Island, South Africa. After a review of the database here, it does not appear that any U-boats were in the vicinity at the time,
so was this a simple case of bad weather, human error, mechanical issue or something else?

The area looks pretty treacherous, so would this have been the normal route or does anyone know why she would have been there or have any more information on the circumstances of her loss?

Regards,]]> Eric Stone General Discussions Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:14:38 +0100 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81413,81413#msg-81413 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81413,81413#msg-81413
I am currently reading "Neither Sharks Nor Wolves" by Timothy Mulligan and it claims Erich Topp was in the Allgemeine-SS, albeit for a very short time.

Does anyone have details of which unit and his final rank??

Thanx]]> Dave McQueen General Discussions Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:24:04 +0100 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81412,81412#msg-81412 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81412,81412#msg-81412 [books.google.com]

Name?]]> PF General Discussions Sun, 01 Nov 2009 13:12:11 +0100 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81411,81411#msg-81411 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81411,81411#msg-81411 www.airliners.net]

Thanks.]]> 8002reverse General Discussions Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:27:33 +0100 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81410,81410#msg-81410 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81410,81410#msg-81410 11 years ago I lived in Venezuela, and there I heard a story about jack Cousteau in the seventies visited the Mochima bay in the eastern Venezuela.
There he located a German WW2 submarine. jack Cousteau found the submarine with the help of local a Venezuelan diver.

This summer I was back in Venezuela and visited Mochima. There I looked up the local diver who found the submarine, and asked him about the story.
He told me that the story I heard 11 years before is true, and jack Cousteau found the submarine wreck with the help of technical equipment he had on board his ship.

Furthered more he told me that in the end of the war there was a naval battle with two small German submarines and a British warship, in the Caribbean sea in front of the entrance to the bay of Mochima.
At least one of the submarines sailed into the bay, and all the men escaped and deserted.
Some of the crew members went back to Germany after the war, but others stayed in Venezuela and, he told me that some of them are still living in the area.

I am thinking about making a television documentary about the story, but I need to know more about the whole story before I can start up the project.

Can you help me with any information about the story?]]> nihle General Discussions Sun, 01 Nov 2009 10:44:11 +0100 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81395,81395#msg-81395 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81395,81395#msg-81395
I am trying to find out the number of the U-Boat that was sunk in the Baltic during ww2(Not sure if during training or by enemy action) that was salvaged and recommissioned? I think the whole original crew were killed. Must have been quite horrible to be the 2nd crew with so many ghosts aboard.

Thanx]]> Dave McQueen General Discussions Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:20:05 +0100 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81393,81393#msg-81393 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81393,81393#msg-81393 She joined convoy CU 69 which sailed from New York on 10 May 1945, arriving at Liverpool on 20 May - according to [www.convoyweb.org.uk]
My cousin vividly remembers that just outside Liverpool HMS Patroller met a U-boat and took her surrender.
Is there any way of verifying this incident and discovering the identity of the U-boat?
(Well, I know Patroller’s logbook is in the NA – but it will be a long time before I get over there again.)

Bart]]> Bart150 General Discussions Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:17:20 +0100 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81389,81389#msg-81389 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81389,81389#msg-81389 I know there are other Kriegsmarine porcelain designs with different colours like red circles or other colour combinations. Are those other types related to different table services? I couldn´t find any Kriegsmarine china classification related to colour. Any help would be of great value.
so thanks in advance

A readable scan of those pages in my site:
[ag727.vox.com]]]> Alejandro General Discussions Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:45:38 +0100 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81384,81384#msg-81384 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81384,81384#msg-81384
Looking at this metric (percentage of successful merchant sailings), which were the worst months for the Allies? (I know which months had the highest absolute tonnage and ships sunk.)]]> BROJD General Discussions Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:48:36 +0100 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81378,81378#msg-81378 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81378,81378#msg-81378 books.google.com]
see pages 18-19]]> PF General Discussions Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:02:49 +0100 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81377,81377#msg-81377 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81377,81377#msg-81377
there is something wrong about the sequence of events leading to the sinking of U 585:
According to all sources I have consulted, on 24 March, 1942 U-585 was attacked by 3 enemy ships with depth charges, and was forced to return to base (Kirkenes) due to the resulting extensive damage.
Yet, she sailed for another patrol on 27/3 and was mined and sunk 30/3 off Kola Inlet.
My question, therefore, is how could the extensive damage have been repaired so quickly within 72 hours? Does anyone have additional info on the nature of the damage sustained or is there some mix-up with another boat?

Thanks, regards,
Brian]]> Brian V. General Discussions Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:24:29 +0100 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81376,81376#msg-81376 http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,81376,81376#msg-81376
It is commonly stated – as, indeed, it is elsewhere on this site – that on 4 May 1945, when Dönitz was obliged to cancel Regenbogen in order to meet the conditions of the partial surrender, some 200 U-boat captains scuttled anyway, believing that that was what Dönitz would have wished, or that it was a case of straightforward defiance by captains who simply could not bring themselves to hand over their commands to the enemy.

However, Niestlé shows (in German U-boat Losses During World War II), that 86 of the total of around 200 U-boats were scuttled from 1 May to 3 May, i.e, before the surrender was signed.

Now, the earliest reference I can find ordering the execution of Regenbogen is not until the early hours of the 5 May – i.e., before the surrender terms had even been dictated, let alone come into effect – when OKM ordered that wherever possible all U-boats were to depart immediately for Norway, and that any unable to sail were to carry out Regenbogen. Eight minutes later, however, this was cancelled by Feldmarschall Keitl when he signalled that no scuttling or demolition was to be carried out.

So, if the earliest reference to executing Regenbogen is not until 5 May, why did the scuttling begin on 1 May, and on what authority?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.]]> Ubootfahrer General Discussions Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:10:02 +0100